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I love how Logan is an odd combination of fist a’flying thug and erudite, quotation spouting, musical theater hands high school boy.

There’s something else going on in this scene that interests me. I always wondered how it was possible that Logan “Panty Dropper” Echolls managed to not sleep with Veronica during that first summer of dating. It’s weird to contemplate that they didn’t because he never pushed her to, that instead he spent his time kissing her like crazy, never going past second base*. This is wild for all sorts of reasons. Firstly, because it’s clear Veronica responds to him like a house fire and secondly, you know he’s got a legendary amount of game. 

Remember how he seduced Hannah in what was probably 20 minutes? Also, how business-like and detached he was with hot momma Kendall? Notice how he’s never that smooth with Veronica? Even in this scene, when he knows how she felt about him in that moment, he does little more than play with his hands cutely and step into her, without ever touching her. His words to her—“How much easier would your life be if you were indifferent to me?” applies more to him than her in this instance. She unmoors him and casts him adrift without any assurance of what is going on between them. He could toy with her physically and should if he wants to win. He should remind her of what it felt like to be with him but he never does. The only physical move I can think of is that one time when he bops her on the nose after he tells her she is cute when she’s jealous, and that’s not provocation. It’s affection.

Anyway, tl;dr. The point is, he never uses his greatest weapon against her.

This kid, I swear.

*Just going by VMars off the cuff remark in Normal is the Watchword

This post is perfection.  I’m kind of in love with the VM fandom lately with all of this beautiful meta flying around.  

Both times we see them getting a bit frisky (the M.A.D. bathroom scene and in the poolhouse in ATTtD) it’s Logan putting on the brakes.  I think to him, there are girls, and then there is Veronica, and he doesn’t want to settle for a back seat hookup with her.  

And I don’t think it’s a Madonna/Whore complex like with Duncan.  I just think he’s so desperate to be loved, and has pretty much been trained by the girls/women in his past that sex is where he stands out.  His selling point.  

So (like any teenaged girl) he has this romanticised idea that when he and Veronica finally have sex, that it’ll magically cement their love.  He wants something authentic and real.  Something he’s probably never experienced before, knowing what we do about Lilly’s attention span.  

So he doesn’t push, and distracts himself with the PCHers and gunshots and burning swimming pools.  The big surprise for me is that Veronica wasn’t pushing.  Especially later on when we see the ‘Breathe Me’ flashback.  Things were getting pretty heated there.  

I agree 100% with the point you make about him never using his powers on Veronica.  

I think we kind of get the idea that Logan could lean on a wall and get five dates without even trying – a combination of pure cockiness and being Hollywood royalty – so you never even realize how MUCH game he has until Ain’t No Magic Mountain High Enough, when he goes after Hannah.  

He’s a force of nature in the way he pursues that poor girl.  And honestly, kind of scary – it reminds me a bit of JD’s performance on Lie to Me.  It’s like he’s three steps ahead of her at every turn.  He so perfectly maneuvers her into position on his chess board.  

I always wondered why he never turned that charm on to Veronica.  I’m not sure even she could have withstood it, if he’d really tried.  But he never did.  It seemed to be important to him to be (mostly) his authentic self with her.  

Ugh.  These two.  

And that bathroom scene.  I assume you’ve seen the extended version? She’s blushing on the inside.  I’ll post it in a second for those who haven’t seen it.      

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